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Friday, September 10, 2010

Burning Korans is Just Plain Stupid

Don’t know about the readers of this site, but I think Pastor Terry Jones,..you know the guy who wants to burn Korans? Well, he’s an IDIOT.


How can you call yourself a Christian and a Christian Pastor at that, and what to burn another religion’s theological doctrine? Add the fact that Jones’ actions are stirring up a whole separate group of Idiots,…...namely uneducated Muslims in places as far away as Afghanistan and therefore placing service members at a greater risk, then you have to wonder his motivation.

I could care less about how Muslims feel about this country, but I don’t think unnecessarily insulting these mutts is a good tactical decision,…it just recruits more vest bombers for them.

The latest on Pastor Jone’s after claiming he had an agreement with Iman Rauf to not burn the Korans if the planned Ground Zero Mosque is moved someplace else.


Florida Pastor Terry Jones plans trip to NYC over Koran flap

"I am just a man who is trying to do what God has told us to do," he says

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — As thousands of Afghans protested a tiny Florida church's plan to burn the Muslim holy book, the church's pastor said on NBC's TODAY Show Friday that he won't follow through on the plan if he's able to meet Saturday with the organizers behind a mosque planned near ground zero in New York.

It wasn't clear if the Rev. Terry Jones meant the burning would be halted indefinitely or just for Saturday.

Imam Muhammad Musri, the president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida, told CBS TV's "The Early Show" he had a commitment for Jones and himself to meet in New York with the imam there. Later, NBC News reported that ABC's "Good Morning America" show would be flying Jones to New York for the meeting.

Jones said he has made contact with Musri. He has not made direct contact with Iman Faisal Abdul Rauf.

"No decision has been made to whether we will burn or not burn Qurans," he told NBC. "It is under serious conserideration, but at this this point no decision has been made."

On the TODAY show Friday morning, Jones blamed Musri for the confusion surrounding the Quran burning plan's status, and said he felt "lied to."

Earlier, Jones and Musri had disagreed sharply on the terms of the agreement.

Jones said Thursday he would call off the planned burning of Qurans based on a deal negotiated with the president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida that the location of a mosque planned near ground zero in New York would be changed.

But Musri said he was clear on Thursday when he told Jones that he could only set up a meeting with planners of the New York City mosque, whose leader said he had spoken to neither the pastor nor Musri. Jones responded by opening the door, if only a crack, that he would go forward with his plan on Saturday.

"We are just really shocked," Jones said of Musri. "He clearly, clearly lied to us."

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Anti-Muslim rhetoric flares near 9/11 anniversary ..Jones' church, which has about 50 members, is independent of any denomination. It follows the pentecostal tradition, which teaches that the Holy Spirit can manifest itself in the modern day.

Meanwhile, one protester was shot dead and at least 11 wounded outside a German-run NATO base in northeast Afghanistan Friday. Demonstrations later spread to the capital, Kabul , and at least four other provinces.

Asked if he feels responsible for the shooting death of a protestor in Afghanistan Friday, Jones said his church did not pull the trigger, and that the incident "reveals the true nature of Islam."

Jones said he and his followers do not condone violence and that they were surprised by the level of anger. He said radical islam is more dangerous than even church members ever thought.

“I am just a man who is trying to do what god has told us to do,” he said.

Thursday, September 9, 2010

Iman Rouf Predicts Backlash from Mosque Controversy

From Yahoo! News, reporting that Imam Rauf fears moving the NYC mosque could inflame tension among Muslim and create a violent backlash.

EXCUSE MEEEEEEEEE! How dare Iman Rauf cautioning America that moving the infamous New York Mosque would create a violence backlash among Muslims. His very statement can inflame tensions and serve as a suggestion for Muslims to protest and commit violence.


NEW YORK – The Imam behind a proposed Islamic community center and mosque near ground zero cautioned Wednesday that moving the facility could cause a violent backlash from Muslim extremists and endanger national security.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf told CNN that the discourse surrounding the center has become so politicized that moving it could strengthen the ability of extremists abroad to recruit and wage attacks against Americans, including troops fighting in the Middle East .

"The headlines in the Muslim world will be that Islam is under attack," he said, but he added that he was open to the idea of moving the planned location of the center, currently two blocks north of the World Trade Center site.

"But if you don't do this right, anger will explode in the Muslim world," he later said, predicting that the reaction could be more furious than the eruption of violence following the 2005 publication of Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

Opponents say the center, which would include a Sept. 11 memorial and a Muslim prayer space, should be moved farther away from where Islamic extremists destroyed the World Trade Center and killed nearly 2,800 people. Supporters say religious freedom should be protected.

Rauf, 61, has largely been absent since the debate over the center erupted earlier this year. He has been traveling abroad, including taking a State Department-funded 15-day trip to the Middle East to promote religious tolerance.

In the interview with CNN's Soledad O'Brien, his first since returning to the U.S. on Sunday, Rauf responded to a number of questions that have been raised about the project.

He said money to develop the center would be raised domestically for the most part.

"And we'll be very transparent on how we raise money," he said, adding that no funds would be accepted from sources linked to extremists.

Rauf said that, in retrospect, he might have chosen a different location for what he described as a multifaith community center.

"If I knew this would happen, if it would cause this kind of pain, I wouldn't have done it," he said.

Wednesday, September 8, 2010

Islam is not a Religion, it is a Foreign Law

Interesting Read from JR Dieckman, Canada Free Press

The time has come to question if Islam is protected under our First Amendment rights to freedom of religion. Yes, everyone in America has the right to freedom of religion, but Islam is not a religion. Religious faith is only a part of Islam. The rest is a socially engineered society with its own laws and customs that seriously conflict with American law.

Is Great Britain a religion because they have the Church of England? Of course not! Britain has an established charter, civil and criminal laws, and a society that respects those laws. Islam has the Qur’an that provides the governing charter, complete with laws, punishment, and social behavior for its people in addition to its religious teachings. If Islam is a religion, then Britain is also.

We must recognize that religion is only one aspect of Islam‘s Qur’an. The rest of this charter advances ideas, social behavior, and laws that are in direct conflict with American and western laws and values. Teddy Roosevelt once said that to live in America, immigrants must have undivided loyalty to America and to no one else. How is that possible for Muslims who swear loyalty to Islam where their governing laws are found in the Qur‘an?

What legitimate religion would demand that its members either kill or convert people of other faiths? What legitimate religion is intent on imposing its own laws on the rest of the entire world? If Islam were just about praying to Allah and worshiping Mohammed and nothing more, we would not be having a problem with Islamism and Islamic terrorists. Islam has a global mission to take over and run the world according to Islamic Shariah law. How can we call that a religion?

What legitimate religion in this country comes with its own civil laws that take precedence over national, state, and local laws? No, Islam is not a religion. It is a governing doctrine that not only dictates religious beliefs, but also social behavior that includes laws, penalties and punishments, not by God, but by people if the laws are not obeyed. Islam is a form of government, not a religion. It does not belong here. We already have government under our Constitution (sort of).

As Muslims build their mega-Mosques in our nation - financed by Saudi Arabia - they laugh at the stupid Americans who are selling out their fellow citizens by allowing Islam to take over our country a little bit at a time. It is the same method used over decades by the Marxist Progressives who now have control of our government - take away our liberties one little piece at a time until full control and submission is achieved.

We are extending a welcoming hand to the enemy of our country and western culture under the pretense of religious freedom

Islamists know they cannot destroy us militarily, but they also know that they can do it with political correctness and insisting that we respect their freedom of religion, even though they have no respect for ours. We are extending a welcoming hand to the enemy of our country and western culture under the pretense of religious freedom.

What religion recruits killers and terrorists in their place of worship, then sends them off to foreign training grounds to become proficient at mass murder? I know of only one. They are taught to kill in the name of God, but this is not the law of God who commanded “thou shall not kill” - it is the law of Mohammed who commanded “kill them all who will not convert.”

The Qur’an blurs the lines between religion and government and teaches that Islamic government is God’s law

The Qur’an blurs the lines between religion and government and teaches that Islamic government is God’s law. It certainly is not. Why do we tolerate this abomination in America where our laws maintain a separation between church and state? To accept Islam in America is to accept Islamic law as well.

Are we out of our minds? Did anyone notice that we are at war with these people? Terrorists feed on the same rulebook as other Muslims who have so far remained peaceful. Will they be making the same decision that Barack Obama made when he wrote in “Dreams Of My Father” - “When the political winds shift in an ugly direction, I will side with the Muslims?” It is always nice to know that our president is on our side when America goes to war. Too bad this one is not.

L.A. now sides with Mexico and Mexican Nationals over the legal citizens of this country.

The same thing is happening in the southern Border States where Mexicans are taking over cities one by one. You need look no further than the Los Angeles boycott of Arizona to realize that the city government in L.A. now sides with Mexico and Mexican Nationals over the legal citizens of this country.

The strong Democratic population has even elected a Mexican mayor to run the city, and half of the city council members have Mexican surnames, as do many in the California state legislature. Although most of these legislators were born here in America , their loyalties seem to lie more with Mexico and Mexican citizens who are now invading our state along with other Border States.

These people of Mecha and La Raza believe this land is rightfully theirs and they intend to govern it for their people. Any objections are met with charges of racism aimed at Americans who simply want to preserve the American language, culture, values, and way of life. Los Angeles has changed a great deal since this invasion began and many American have moved out to find a new homeland.

What are we going to do when we see the same thing happening in the federal government? What are we going to do when Muslims demand that the United States respect and enforce Shariah law? They are already doing it in England and other European countries. It is only a short time before we see it here too. Shariah is already creeping into the courts and local laws in some states.

Is that the kind of country we want? Or do we want the country that our founders created? I have no problem with Muslims living in Islamic countries overseas where they can have the kind of society they desire, as long as they leave us alone and free to enjoy the kind of society that we desire. The two cannot be reconciled into one united society any more than capitalists can unite with communists. It must be one or the other.

Some people think we should be bending over backwards to make nice with Muslims and make sure they feel welcome in our country because that is what America is all about, they say. Immigrants built America , they say. To an extent, this is true if we are talking about the immigrants who migrated here to become Americans and help to build this great country over 200 years ago.

Today we have way too many foreigners coming to America not to become Americans, but instead to change America . They want to dominate instead of assimilate. They want us to accept their culture instead of them accepting our culture and becoming productive members of it.

Are you tired of being called “an immigrant” right here in your home country? I know I am. “ America is a nation of immigrants,” they say. Let me state this for the record. I am not an immigrant, I am a natural born American. My parents were born here. My grandparents and great grandparents were born here. How many others in this country have the same family history? How many people reading this have known no other flag than the American flag?

We are not immigrants, we are Americans - and America is a nation of Americans - not a nation of immigrants. How much longer will we be able to call ourselves “Americans” with foreign cultures and emphases on diversity encroaching on our country? People naturally gravitate toward their own kind, not because they are racists, but because they seek the company of others with whom they have things in common.

It’s becoming increasingly difficult to relate to people here in Los Angeles who don’t even speak our language. This creates an atmosphere of mistrust, resentment and hostility when we see our city being taking over by foreign invaders. Now we have to lock our doors both at home and in our cars.

When America was being built, most everyone was an immigrant - from Europe. That was over 200 years ago. We still welcome immigrants who want to become a part of America and become American - but where do we draw the line between welcoming friends and embracing our enemies? Obviously, to those running our government, there is no line thanks largely to Ted Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and a Congress full of Democrats when they passed The Hart-Celler Act of 1965.

“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs,” Kennedy said. Oh really?

If Muslims want to live and work in America and worship their prophet and God, that is not a problem. But when they try to go beyond their own personal worship and demand that we change our society to accommodate them, then that is where we need to draw the line. It is not we who should change, it is they. Just like people migrating from Mexico, they need to discard their old country ways, adapt to America, assimilate into our society, and become Americans.

Muslim worship is protected under the First Amendment, Islamic law is not

Muslim worship is protected under the First Amendment, Islamic law is not. Until Muslims - and our own government - can accept that, then Islam cannot be considered a religion and Islamic culture does not belong here in America.